Harder's conjecture and ratios of standard L-values

I will explain how the Bloch-Kato conjecture leads to the following conclusion: any large prime dividing a critical value of the L-function of a classical Hecke eigenform of level 1, should also divide a certain ratio of critical values for the standard L-function of a related genus 2 (and in general vector-valued) Hecke eigenform F. This can be proved in the scalar-valued case, and there is experimental evidence in the vector-valued case (where the relation between f and F is a congruence of Hecke eigenvalues conjectured by Harder).